HD films that suck.

[pugheaven]

I for one gotta say that I'm kind of disappointed in Blu Ray. The video and audio quality are there, but everything else is a pain. Everything takes forever to load, there's a huge lag in response from the remote (which I guess is universal), dvd upscaling sucks, it just seems to be laggy all around. I mean hell, it takes 10 seconds for the tray to eject, but maybe that's just my player. I really wish HD-DVD would have won (not just because I have 30 movies), it just seemed to be a superior format. Video quality and audio quality seem about the same but it just responds better to everything and functions smoother.

Both HD-DVD and BluRay players suffer from poor load speeds because they actually use a cut down version of linux for the software on the machines (well HD-DVD does so I assume BluRay does something similar) so they actually need to load the OS in the system... the PS3 is a dedicated machine thus load speeds are great... I agree the load speeds are a pain and the response on my HD-DVD player remote is laggy... it was never like this when DVD first got released.

I wish HD-DVD had won because it was the better format... not in terms of PQ or Sounds as in theory both formats should just use VC1 encodes most of the time and thus be the same. HD-DVD was a stabilized format without profile issues like BluRay, it wasn't region locked liek BluRay (although this is less of an issue now), alot of HD-DVD's were being released in the states as double sided, DVD/HD-DVD's so you could lend them to ya mates or whatever... and it worked from the offset... BluRay was majorlly flawed from the beginning and it's literally only just over the past 3 months we've finally got everyone releasing profile 2.0 decks with this silly BluRay Live nonsense on it.

However, no point in dragging up which was better this and that... the fact is HD-DVD lost... however I'm on about 70 discs and 12 BluRays as I only got my BluRay player start of December...

As for PQ and Sound... if you get the correct transfer and a TrueHD or DTS-HD soundtrack, believe me if you can't see the difference between SD and HD then your eyes are gone... it's incredible to see. You look at King Kong on standard DVD and then watch on HD-DVD... it's on another planet... even my missus and she just doesn't give a monkies notices the huge and it is HUGE leap in performance... sound is incredible.

I've got American Werewolf In London and it's not the best BUT is a large leap over the special edition DVD I owned... it's just not reference quality that's all. The start is still grainy as hell but suites the Yorkshire Moors but you can see the detail difference on the opening credits... black levels are still poor though throughout the film... pity they didn't do a true remaster of this one

As for upscaling abilities, the Toshiba HD-DVD's were all in a class of their own tbh... the Panasonic's and Samsungs were rubbish and to be honest, my Panasonic BluRay BD30 is crap compared to my Toshiba Ep30 for upscaling, the Tosh is in a league of their own.

[rizob]

I for one gotta say that I'm kind of disappointed in Blu Ray. The video and audio quality are there, but everything else is a pain. Everything takes forever to load, there's a huge lag in response from the remote (which I guess is universal), dvd upscaling sucks, it just seems to be laggy all around. I mean hell, it takes 10 seconds for the tray to eject, but maybe that's just my player. I really wish HD-DVD would have won (not just because I have 30 movies), it just seemed to be a superior format. Video quality and audio quality seem about the same but it just responds better to everything and functions smoother.

You can't blame a disc format on your poor choice of player, lots of the earlier players took ages to load. My PS3 is instant.

[erikl85]

You can blame a disc format on your poor choice of player, lots of the earlier players took ages to load. My PS3 is instant.

I have the panasonic dmp-bd35, supposed to be a pretty decent player, I did my homework before buying. And besides the problems i listed seem to be pretty universal from what I've read.

[Snixtor]

My PS3 is instant.

And besides the problems i listed seem to be pretty universal from what I've read.

I'm using a PS3 for blu-ray and have experienced none of the issues you're talking about erikl85. Very fast to load, very responsive, good DVD upscaling too. Like rizob, I find it to be (near) instant. The only trouble I have with it is a bit of tearing thanks to 24p encoding (and my HDTV doesn't support that). I wonder if that is a universal issue?

[rizob]

I'm using a PS3 for blu-ray and have experienced none of the issues you're talking about erikl85. Very fast to load, very responsive, good DVD upscaling too. Like rizob, I find it to be (near) instant. The only trouble I have with it is a bit of tearing thanks to 24p encoding (and my HDTV doesn't support that). I wonder if that is a universal issue?

Yeah when i say instant i'm basically comparing seconds on the PS3 to minutes on some standalone players. Apparently newer players are a lot better, but i can't say i'm clued up on individual models.

[pugheaven]

The PS3 BluRay is the only player on the market that's "instant" so to speak, and it's down to the processing power of the thing simple as that, so it loads the software used very very fast... none of the standalone decks have this processing power and thus ALL future BluRay players will suffer... they'll get quicker BUT NEVER match the PS3 IMHO.

Your BD35 is a quality player, one of the best on the market...

If you're getting tearing on a PS3 at 1080P/24 then DON'T run it at that resolution, simply set the PS3 to 1080i or 1080P to what your TV can handle... you may get the odd judder on panning shots without 24fps BUT should be fine 99% of the time.

[Snixtor]

If you're getting tearing on a PS3 at 1080P/24 then DON'T run it at that resolution, simply set the PS3 to 1080i or 1080P to what your TV can handle... you may get the odd judder on panning shots without 24fps BUT should be fine 99% of the time.

I've got it set to 720p (my screens res) with 24p mode disabled, but it still shows tearing (not judder) from time to time.

[Noizic]

Why not?

Well it helps but old movies isnt so much about the quality as I see it so well doesnt really affect them but I havent watched many HD old movies, one come to mind though is some war movie (3 hours long lol) in the 1960s..it didnt give any to watch it in HD.

Movies from 1990s and up is ok though, that might help.

[bigjenko]

Just watched the Pianist on HD-DVD and there is some grain here and there mainly on faces close up though it does suit the type of film, and the quality is good.
Fantastic film its extremerly rarley i get moved by a film, feels real and horrific at the same time.

[pugheaven]

Just watched the Pianist on HD-DVD and there is some grain here and there mainly on faces close up though it does suit the type of film, and the quality is good.
Fantastic film its extremerly rarley i get moved by a film, feels real and horrific at the same time.

I've got this one sitting here just never in the mood to watch it, so defo worth a viewing then?