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    Quote Originally Posted by antonism96 View Post
    Sorry, I never saw a GPU with support for DX 9.0 and SM 1.1, so I thought that DX 9 has support SM 2.0 and higher.
    There's really two levels of support, but Microsoft almost refuses to clearly identify this to the end user; essentially, if you see the phrase "DirectX 9 compatible" it just means that the drivers work with DirectX 9. The hardware will still need to have some basic level of physical support but at the least it needs to be "fixed function rendering" (sometimes called hardware TnL). If you see "DirectX 9 compliant" then that's supposed to mean a minimum of SM2.0 physical support... I say "supposed" to because even Microsoft gets it wrong. On the back of my UK retail box for Flight Simulator X it says "DirectX 9 compliant"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batesd View Post
    I believe the full implementation of dx10 has yet to occur, though.
    There will be no more updates to FSX DX10 implemetation as far as I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neeyik View Post
    There's really two levels of support, but Microsoft almost refuses to clearly identify this to the end user; essentially, if you see the phrase "DirectX 9 compatible" it just means that the drivers work with DirectX 9. The hardware will still need to have some basic level of physical support but at the least it needs to be "fixed function rendering" (sometimes called hardware TnL). If you see "DirectX 9 compliant" then that's supposed to mean a minimum of SM2.0 physical support... I say "supposed" to because even Microsoft gets it wrong. On the back of my UK retail box for Flight Simulator X it says "DirectX 9 compliant"!

    Noted and all fixed - thanks!

    OK, thank you for the information, now I understood!

    Quote Originally Posted by Metalex View Post
    There will be no more updates to FSX DX10 implemetation as far as I know.
    But will there be an update to FSX for DX 10.1? Or FSX won't take advantage to DX 10.1?

    I think I know you from Flight Sim World forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antonism96 View Post
    OK, thank you for the information, now I understood!



    But will there be an update to FSX for DX 10.1? Or FSX won't take advantage to DX 10.1?

    I think I know you from Flight Sim World forum.
    I don't think there will be a 10.1 update for FSX. The next incarnation of DX10 for Flight Simulator will be in FS11.

    Yep, I visit Flight Sim World fairly regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalex View Post
    I don't think there will be a 10.1 update for FSX. The next incarnation of DX10 for Flight Simulator will be in FS11.

    Yep, I visit Flight Sim World fairly regularly.
    OK then.

    But if FSXI will be released in more than 2 years it will need to support DX 11! [rofl] [rolleyes]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalex View Post
    I don't think there will be a 10.1 update for FSX. The next incarnation of DX10 for Flight Simulator will be in FS11.

    Yep, I visit Flight Sim World fairly regularly.
    FSX-SP2 Beta posted
    http://blogs.msdn.com/ptaylor/archiv...ta-posted.aspx

    I think we might yet hear more on this issue. I get the impression that they are kind of "Winging it"
    Last edited by Batesd; 11-22-2007 at 04:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batesd View Post
    FSX-SP2 Beta posted
    http://blogs.msdn.com/ptaylor/archiv...ta-posted.aspx

    I think we might yet hear more on this issue. I get the impression that they are kind of "Winging it"
    No offence intended, but what has this got to do with DX10.1?

    SP2 has already been released as part of the Acceleration pack. The SP2 beta is a prelude to the separate SP2 download which will be made available to all FSX users, notably those who don't own Acceleration. However, the content of each version of SP2 will be exactly the same, and both will include DX10 preview.

    Phil Taylor seems to state in that post that there will be no more FSX releases after this, so that rules out anything to do with DX10.1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalex View Post
    No offence intended, but what has this got to do with DX10.1?

    SP2 has already been released as part of the Acceleration pack. The SP2 beta is a prelude to the separate SP2 download which will be made available to all FSX users, notably those who don't own Acceleration. However, the content of each version of SP2 will be exactly the same, and both will include DX10 preview.

    Phil Taylor seems to state in that post that there will be no more FSX releases after this, so that rules out anything to do with DX10.1.
    Srry, I was still thinking of of prayeruk's original question. Also, in the thread I posted, people were still asking how SP2 can possibly be the final word, when several new bugs were introduced by the addition of Dx10.
    I still believe (in a sane world) MS will be forced to address those, and perhaps go further than that.
    (Mr Taylor himself mentions that the situation is never as simple as it appears)
    Last edited by Batesd; 11-22-2007 at 06:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batesd View Post
    Srry, I was still thinking of of prayeruk's original question. Also, in the thread I posted, people were still asking how SP2 can possibly be the final word, when several new bugs were introduced by the addition of Dx10.
    I still believe (in a sane world) MS will be forced to address those, and perhaps go further than that.
    (Mr Taylor himself mentions that the situation is never as simple as it appears)
    It would be nice if they fixed the bugs, but I really can't see them going any further than that. Development of FS11 has already started, so they won't be introducing new content into FSX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalex View Post
    It would be nice if they fixed the bugs, but I really can't see them going any further than that. Development of FS11 has already started, so they won't be introducing new content into FSX.
    Yep, you could be perfectly right. But If FS-XI turned out to be only a patched, completed FSX with a few extra bells, the reaction would.......not be good. Especially from people who had paid for acceleration as well.
    I will hope MS does the right thing and maybe a little more.
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