Updated my post, it's fully specced out with every piece of hardware you requested with my notes added on.
Enjoy!
Updated my post, it's fully specced out with every piece of hardware you requested with my notes added on.
Enjoy!
Thanks so much! I like your specs better than others, but the other guy was working with me a lot and I was not sure if you were going to post specs, so I hope you won't be disappointed that I promised him the payment... He did put a lot of effort in helping me.Originally Posted by Krysis
Out of your specs, I loved the motherboard, which has onboard sound that can do Dolby Digital LIVE for sure, so Asus Xonar is not necessary. Thing is.... No PCI 3.0 support at all, but supposedly that will not bottleneck anything, not even GTX 680. I guess it is less future proof, but it will not bottleneck any hardware so it should not be a problem.
I already have a mouse, and the one you provided is a wired one, and I need wireless. Once again, I already have a wireless mouse, so it doesn't matter. The keyboard you provided is also wired, so I will need another one, but I can find one on my own!
I REALLY hope the motherboard you provided will be able to use upcoming Ivy Bridge, which I will be waiting for. Since I will save up on the sound card and the mouse - I should be able to afford i7 Ivy Bridge, right??? I AM afraid that it may also not boot Ivy Bridge unless a BIOS update is applied first, but how do you apply BIOS update without a supported CPU?!
I also found that I can get a Bkue Ray writer, not just reader, for almost the same price! Once again, I can find that one on my own based on reviews and price.
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In the end, both lists have great hardware, but I am going to get some parts from one list and some from another!
Last edited by Brat Gvidon; 04-19-2012 at 08:53 AM.
PCI-E 3.0 won't be fully put to the test until a couple years from now. Like many have said, PCIE 2.0 already has enough bandwidth to support up to 3x SLI, and even at that point any performance hits are so minimal it's not worth anything to worry about.
I know I linked wired mouse/keyboard, but you were asking for the impossible pretty much. A wireless gaming set that's actually GOOD has yet to be rated I'm afraid. Anytime you're asking for a gaming peripheral, it 100% has to be powered by USB.I already have a mouse, and the one you provided is a wired one, and I need wireless. Once again, I already have a wireless mouse, so it doesn't matter. The keyboard you provided is also wired, so I will need another one, but I can find one on my own!
If by the Ivy Bridge Sandy Bridge-E chips, then no. The new SB-E chips are socket 2011, and motherboards for those can be $300+ at the moment. I strongly believe that even if you feel like you're not getting a futureproof CPU today by getting the 2500K, it will be quite some time before that thing gives you any bottleneck.I REALLY hope the motherboard you provided will be able to use upcoming Ivy Bridge, which I will be waiting for. Since I will save up on the sound card and the mouse - I should be able to afford i7 Ivy Bridge, right??? I AM afraid that it may also not boot Ivy Bridge unless a BIOS update is applied first, but how do you apply BIOS update without a supported CPU?!
I also found that I can get a Blue Ray writer, not just reader, for almost the same price! Once again, I can find that one on my own based on reviews and price.
Some of them can be had for under $75. I bought my LG burner from Best Buy actually for like $80 after tax on sale. I don't see myself ever burning blu-ray media though... hell, I haven't burned a DL DVD even!
Ivy Bridge is not Sandy Brige E - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bri...oarchitecture) and use the same socket.
It comes out April 23d and will replace Sandy Bridge, but for the same price. They use new 3D transistor architecture.
Do you think the motherboard you recommended will support them with a BIS update? And if it will support new chips only with an updated BIOS then how am I supposed to update the BIOS if it won't post with Ivy Bridge CPU???
So, PCI 2.0 won't bottleneck anything I'll buy today, but will it not limit future hardware like a videocard down the road, maybe several years from now? I know in several years there will be new socket motherboards, a but upgrading to a new videocard that utilizes PCI 3.0 may become a problem with PCI 2.0 motherboard...
Since I am saving on sound card and mouse, does the saving not add up for me to purchase an i7?
Last edited by Brat Gvidon; 04-19-2012 at 03:16 PM.
Oops, my bad >.<
The motherboard will support it since Ivy Bridge is socket 1155. It will natively support it I believe, but if not, it will support it with basic features until a BIOS update is performed.
It will not bottleneck you in the next 3-5 years, I can be sure of that. Benchmarks today show that the difference between a quad core CPU 3 years ago (Q9400 or w/e) compared to a 25/700K processor is only a few FPS difference with the same hardware (3-7 fps give or take). So again, don't be worried about the CPU/Mobo bottlenecking you.
Yes, if you do not need a sound card now or mouse/keyboard, then putting the extra money into the i7 or even an HX850 watt PSU from Corsair would be better.
Get Asus Z77 Sabretooth or any other Asus Z77 mobo instead of Gigabyte.
What is the difference? I don't care much for overclockability (but I don't mind it either), but stability, compatibility, build quality, reliability, and automated optimal BIOS settings detection. They are more expensive, so I would need to know why I should pay more $ for Asus.
In addition, those motherboards have onboard Realtek ALC892, which does NOT support optical Dolby Digital LIVE, so I would have to spend another $80 on Asus Xonar.
GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3 has Realtek ALC889, which does support Dolby Digital LIVE and I won't need to buy Asus Xonar, so the end price difference is about $170!!!
OK, more complications... Realtek ALC889 has 2 versions, and one of them supports Dolby Digital LIVE and the other does not. There is no way to tell whether the GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3 has the one with the right support. This is why I made this thread because there are SO many tiny spec details (and not some are not even listed anywhere) that you can go mad and I want to just order it all at once and know it will do what I need it to do!
Last edited by Brat Gvidon; 04-20-2012 at 12:07 AM.
Let me tell you why - Asus has a much better UEFI (BIOS) support at the moment.
I know what BIOS is and how to work with it. I have been out of the scene for a long time and have no idea what UEFI is and why it is important. I shall Google it now, but please be kind and enlighten me in this thread as well!
You don't get it. I meant quality of BIOS/UEFI. I'm currently on a Gigabyte Z68 board and i can tell you getting it to work was a ****ing nightmare when i bought it. It would get stuck in boot loops or cold boots every second reboot and i had to pop the battery out for a few minutes just to make it boot again. They finally fixed it after like five or six different BIOSes my mobo was finally working as it should from the beginning hooray. I've heard their Z77 boards have issues too.
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