Extended Battery FTW

[Langaleer]

So it seems that they may have solved the achllies heel of android; bad battery life. The next step is to make the OS as easy to use and with good quality apps as iOS. Don't think that will happen this decade though.

2 words, Apple Fanboy

[P_Dub_S]

So it seems that they may have solved the achllies heel of android; bad battery life. The next step is to make the OS as easy to use and with good quality apps as iOS. Don't think that will happen this decade though.

What apps on iOS are of a good quality and ease of use that Android doesn't have? I know from using my sisters iPhone 4s that the google maps app on iOS is vastly inferior than Androids version. Then there's Pandora, Netflix, Instagram and Shazam that I have used on both platforms which are exactly the same.

[red_dog007]

yeah, the apps thing is no longer the case. Maybe when Android first came out, but now, that no longer exists. Both markets are too large for a company to ignore releasing the app on the other. Unless you're Futuremark Game Studios. [thumbdown]


The OS I can agree with you, but only with Gingerbread and lower. ICS is the bomb. More awesome for advanced users compared to Gingerbread, and just as easy for newbs to use like iOS is. I think that ICS as it rolls out is really going to be putting a pinch on Apple unless they completely redesign their current OS.

[russ18uk]

I understand what you mean to a point, but if you think about your usage of a mobile phone during a day, how much of it is actually time being used and how much of it is sat in a bag/locker/pocket doing nothing? Most people, at least those working in jobs that don't require phoning people, are going to have at least 50% of the time with the phone powered on but idling. So, if I go to work at 6am and get home at 6pm, and have used my phone for say, 15minutes during the day on my breaks, but by 6pm, it's dead, then that would be completely useless to me.

Standby battery usage on phones' firmware that does not suffer from wakelocks is miniscule - .5% an hour approx. Over 16 hours... You can manage the sums, I'm sure. If you need a phone critically for calls, you get an old Nokia. If you need the smart usage or GPS etc, you buy spare batteries for extended and very high demand. That extra core is a work of genius when you don't have apps in the background demanding resources. Try having Whatsapp, twitter, push mail, Facebook, Instagram, Ebay, etc running in the background on this new tech and see what happens. Maybe then I will back down.

[FoodStampz]

Standby battery usage on phones' firmware that does not suffer from wakelocks is miniscule - .5% an hour approx. Over 16 hours... You can manage the sums, I'm sure. If you need a phone critically for calls, you get an old Nokia. If you need the smart usage or GPS etc, you buy spare batteries for extended and very high demand. That extra core is a work of genius when you don't have apps in the background demanding resources. Try having Whatsapp, twitter, push mail, Facebook, Instagram, Ebay, etc running in the background on this new tech and see what happens. Maybe then I will back down.

Then you get a Windows phone. :P
Windows phone offers the best of both worlds. Stable, great battery life etc. It doesn't have as many apps (yet) but most of the apps that people actually use are already available on win-phone anyways. BUT NOT ALL. I am still waiting for a pandora and XM app. That's really about it :)

[russ18uk]

Then you get a Windows phone. :P
Windows phone offers the best of both worlds. Stable, great battery life etc. It doesn't have as many apps (yet) but most of the apps that people actually use are already available on win-phone anyways. BUT NOT ALL. I am still waiting for a pandora and XM app. That's really about it :)

LOL Windows Phone. It's gonna ****ing die a slow and painful death. And they keep deliberately killing itself off: http://www.xda-developers.com/featur...eloper-unlock/

You can give me a WP whilst I'm in a coma and still bitch-slap you.

[FoodStampz]

LOL Windows Phone. It's gonna ****ing die a slow and painful death. And they keep deliberately killing itself off: http://www.xda-developers.com/featur...eloper-unlock/

You can give me a WP whilst I'm in a coma and still bitch-slap you.

*sigh* and that death is good for who? More competition is good for everyone.
With Microsoft investing so heavily in win8 I doubt winphone is going to die anytime soon. I do agree though, that M$ need to come off that stupid fee BS. I started to develop a free app for F@H until i seen that and promptly stopped. I think you should only have to pay for the service if the app you are intending on releasing is going to be a pay for app.

As for the phone itself, its unless to downplay it unless one has used one for more than just 5 minutes at a local carrier store. There is slew of reviews out there that show it's weaknesses but also point out that many reviewers themselves have switched based on the stability of the OS and how pleasurable it is to use.
I am not being a fanboy, I have also owned android and sort of miss it because of the customization, but I sure as hell don't miss the wacky ass battery life, random crashes and random lack of performance (laggy menus and such on HTC EVO). That's probably due to the inner tweaker in me tho.

[russ18uk]

*sigh* and that death is good for who? More competition is good for everyone.
With Microsoft investing so heavily in win8 I doubt winphone is going to die anytime soon. I do agree though, that M$ need to come off that stupid fee BS. I started to develop a free app for F@H until i seen that and promptly stopped. I think you should only have to pay for the service if the app you are intending on releasing is going to be a pay for app.

As for the phone itself, its unless to downplay it unless one has used one for more than just 5 minutes at a local carrier store. There is slew of reviews out there that show it's weaknesses but also point out that many reviewers themselves have switched based on the stability of the OS and how pleasurable it is to use.
I am not being a fanboy, I have also owned android and sort of miss it because of the customization, but I sure as hell don't miss the wacky ass battery life, random crashes and random lack of performance (laggy menus and such on HTC EVO). That's probably due to the inner tweaker in me tho.

MS are doing a better job at killing the phone off themselves; they don't need competition from Android et al.

It's all fine and great having a phone with great battery life and fluid UI rendering. But when there are 1:100(0) the apps available to it compared to iOS and Android, what are you going to achieve? It should be a long-term goal of MS to provide a cheap and easy means of developing apps outside of using an emulator - should MS even go the Nexus route and have one completely unadultered phone for devs and users to explore? I think they're too pissing scared people would find loopholes pretty quickly.

I could get a WP7-based phone, perhaps be in awe of its fluid UI and then think, "now what?" and then it's a battery-powered paper weight that has a mic and an earpiece with some eye-candy and sweet FA app support. Not a good viewpoint if you need your phone to last 12-24 months on contract when there is no clear ambition for apps to come flowing in the marketplace.

Maybe it's time for you to take a look at phones built with ICS in mind?

[UTGeneral]

a decent active directory integration with security profile management would make WP a Blackberry and IPhone kiler in the enterprise market but noooooooo MS has to fail at that

[will_perdikakis]

What is it with iPhone owners never admitting any iPhone short-comings?