Beats by dre (mk.2)...

[dangermoose]

Are you the sort of person that buys super expensive HDMI cables and speaker wire ?

Expensive HDMI cables are a gimmick because it's a digital signal, but higher quality analogue interconnects do enhance sound quality.

My issue is that you are confusing what is actually a high-end product and what is marketing.

[StonedOne]

My issue is that you are confusing what is actually a high-end product and what is marketing.

So why do you insist on buying "beats by dr dre" headphones !?

[CorrupT88]

Expensive HDMI cables are a gimmick because it's a digital signal, but higher quality analogue interconnects do enhance sound quality.

My issue is that you are confusing what is actually a high-end product and what is marketing.

That is a some serious hypocracy there comming from someone who just said "beats are the best headphones for electronic music, end of story"

I think YOU are the one confusing high end product and marketing lol.

[valtterieranen]

higher quality analogue interconnects do enhance sound quality.

Another thing for which there's no evidence. At least not for any practical application like home audio.

[dangermoose]

So why do you insist on buying "beats by dr dre" headphones !?

Because. I. Like. How. They. Sound. With. The. Music. I. Want. To. Listen. To. On. Them.

I don't want to brag, but the cost was inconsequential to me. I found a pair of headphones that sound good (to me) with dance music, so I bought them. I'm not going to spend ages stressing about whether or not I got the best deal possible after that when I can think of a million better things to do than spend weeks choosing some headphones.

[CorrupT88]

"high end audio" is driven via marketing and hearsay.

Thats not really true at all... Consumer audio is driven by marketing and hearsay but high end audio is not.

[StonedOne]

That is a some serious hypocracy there comming from someone who just said "beats are the best headphones for electronic music, end of story"

I think YOU are the one confusing high end product and marketing lol.

Well, isn't this is the same person that would rather have an automatic Impreza than a manual. The mind boggles. lol

[QuadDamage]

"high end audio" is driven via marketing and hearsay.

Look at the cables and things people buy. People like to buy things with premium prices because they have been told that this means a "better" sounding product. When clearly when talking about audio there comes a point where this is just utter rubbish.

Is hagen das ice cream really any "better" than supermarket own brand ? Well that is subjective, but people think it is and will tell you all day long it is. Its a premium price and everyone says its "better". So it must be. Its different but is it really "better".

I mean how much longer can you go on making audio "better". 100 years? 1000 years? In 1000 years will heaphones sounds SO MUCH "BETTER" than the ones now ? If so, in what way ? At what point does a recoding of a violin playing become "perfect". It wont, it never will, even if it is actually measurably identical to hearing one live. People will still say that x y and z headphone is "better".

And so the cycle continues with marketing and reviewers getting back handers left right and center. Its a huge business that wont stop anytime soon. But there is a point where it becomes just a circus of marketing and subjective opinions. That is if it hasn't already reached that point already....

Another gem from you sir. Can you make a shorter version so i could put it my sig? Not sure on size limit for text sigs.

[dangermoose]

Another thing for which there's no evidence. At least not for any practical application like home audio.

Nonsense. What Hifi always tests systems with multiple interconnects. They don't have to be more expensive to be better.

I don't agree with it myself, but if people are spending 10k on a system, it is fair to assume that they will be spending about 10% of the budget on interconnects. It all comes down to being the best. The devil is in the detail and you don't think Apple got to be so wealthy by saying "that'll do" all the time do you?

[StonedOne]

Another gem from you sir. Can you make a shorter version so i could put it my sig? Not sure on size limit for text sigs.

No. **** off.

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What Hifi etc etc

Exactly what I was getting at. ROFL