is bullying a necessary evil?

[canberraKarter]

You only got bullied a few times, hardly worth mentioning. We are talking about kids who get tormented everyday.

[Link316]

You only got bullied a few times, hardly worth mentioning. We are talking about kids who get tormented everyday.

And yet again you don't understand for some reason, the OP never specified "Kids who get tormented everyday" It is about bullying in general.

You also ignore that i was bullied at home because i think you only read the words you put in bold from my first post.

[RealTime]

Plenty of teachers bully children, too.

Just FYI.

[Crazy In Bed]

meh......

[RainWind]

@Arathorn - what world are you living in? Maybe teachers number students 1 to 1 where you live, but we had 5 one hour lessons per day in school, the rest were breaks, lunch, and time inbetween. Teachers cannot be everywhere all the time, and cannot watch over every student all of the time outside of lessons themselves. There is about 30% of the day at least with only mild supervision possible due to the ratio of teachers to students, and where any corner or alley can be out of sight of the teacher for a short time.

Where I went to school the teachers were well aware of the bullying, but kids were supposed to just deal with it and not fight back because the bullies were from broken homes. I **** you not.

I was bullied fairly often. If I even so much as raised my voice it would be my ass in trouble. If I mentioned it to the teacher who was watching it I would be ignored. It ranged from things like spitting on me, shooting BBs through straws, etc. That was HS. In elementary school (different district) the rule was EVERYONE got punished. I was probably in 4th or 5th when some kid with issues randomly jumped on my back (I was twice his size) and started pulling at my hair. I got the same amount of detention he did.

In fact, the only time I DIDN'T get detention for being the victim was when the principal's kid kept running his mouth and starting stuff so I knocked a few teeth out. He knew his son was a douche, and was probably glad I knocked some sense into him. That was also the last time I took ritalin. When that stuff wore off at lunch time I was all HULK SMASH. Biggest kid on the playground. I did eventually get fat drinking damn near a gallon of milk a day though. Had I chosen sports instead of books I'd have been a beast in HS rather than a hambeast. nom nom nom.

Looking back I regret being such a *****. I always tried to follow the rules, ignore the bullies, etc. Starting in elementary if I had just given them one good solid punch I think I could have stopped things. None of my bullies were ever people I couldn't have taken in a fight, I was just raised not to fight. I could have saved myself lots of annoyance if the rule from the school and from my mom wasn't bend over and spread em wide or you'll be the one in trouble.

Bullying is totally part of life, but I don't think the victims should be expected to bend over and take it. I don't care what kind of zero tolerance policy you have, training children to be the bitch and just take it doesn't prepare them for real life. You just raise them to be pussies like me. That's not a good thing. Encourage kids to stand up for themselves and not back down, they'll need it in the future dealing with bosses, etc.

Also, long post is long.

[icemanchilled]

Bullying is in no way necessary, it has zero benefit. We are not animals living in a hierarchical community where the fittest survives and gets to reproduce, whilst the weak are shunned.

[_Cubase_]

There is also a fair share of bullying in the workplace when you have a full time job. Like with boses or superiors: they can be obtuse, gang up on you, take credit for your own hard work, make you work ridiculous hours for unjustifiable reasons. It's like the more mature man's bullying game... And it's usually the ex school bullies who are more than likely to become workplace bullies, and the bullying victims who remain victims. Best thing is awareness and the knowledge that if you feel you at being treated unfairly, there are often many people out there who can help you.

[dangermoose]

And it's usually the ex school bullies who are more than likely to become workplace bullies, and the bullying victims who remain victims. Best thing is awareness and the knowledge that if you feel you at being treated unfairly, there are often many people out there who can help you.

I find completely the opposite if I'm honest. The only true workplace bullies I have encountered are the ones who were obviously short and fat at school and got picked on and have become complete scumbags themselves because of it. Very sad as they should know what it's like. I'm getting deja vu, I'm sure this came up on here the other day as well.

What I do find is that people are always trying to get ahead and if you appear weak they will take advantage. The more confidence you gain, the more you learn to stand your ground and this won't happen. Learn to trust your judgement. If something feels wrong, it probably is, but only you can change that. Someone has taken credit for your work? Ask them why? If people are challenged by someone for doing something they generally won't do it again to you. Make it clear to them that you'll take it to their line manager if they do.

If its the CEO then get used to it, your job is to make them look good.

[Lazerbase]

You're a joke.

That sir, I am.

[murderweapon]

As long as the bullies are willing to suffer the consequences of their actions. When they come in shooting "select targets" honestly I am usually on the side of the bullied. For me I didnt care enough about people or their opinions in school to hate bullies or feel bad for those getting bullied. To quote Clint Eastwood, "We all got it coming Kid."