What makes ATI gfx design so much more efficient?

[JonnyG]

This is a nice flamebait thread. /me waits for QD to arrive and the fight to start with CB (like most Display threads these days :))

[Irontiger]

ATi tends to clock a lot higher, and still remain conservative in their factory settings. If they ran bigger chips with more parallelism, they'd be hotter, consume more power and be slower. I think (and I think they've said this themselves) that's the key to their success. Build it smaller, run it faster, sell it cheaper.

It's impossible to say which architecture is more efficient, because there are far too many variables between them which can't be tested on common grounds. I doubt that ATi even worries too much about what they need to do to beat NV, because they typically ship products that run somewhat slower, but are appealing in other ways.

[Meaker]

ATi tends to clock a lot higher, and still remain conservative in their factory settings. If they ran bigger chips with more parallelism, they'd be hotter, consume more power and be slower. I think (and I think they've said this themselves) that's the key to their success. Build it smaller, run it faster, sell it cheaper.

It's impossible to say which architecture is more efficient, because there are far too many variables between them which can't be tested on common grounds. I doubt that ATi even worries too much about what they need to do to beat NV, because they typically ship products that run somewhat slower, but are appealing in other ways.

Actually ATI is the parallel monster really.

Everything is clocked the same.

Nvidia have a block of single shaders all clocked up in the shader domain.

This is a very simplistic view and Nvidia are moving more things into their shader domain but it's not clear cut.

[killem2]

I'm not sure what amazes me more, how much of an annoyance CB has become, or that he's gotten to that post count with out totally being banned.

[zstream]

I'm not sure what amazes me more, how much of an annoyance CB has become, or that he's gotten to that post count with out totally being banned.

Because you have no idea...

Waits for Neeyik to explain [help]

[Madgoat]

Say what you want, but this forum is dead without guys like CB and QD.

[valtterieranen]

Say what you want, but this forum is dead without guys like CB and QD.

You said it.

[Shock_Hunter]

Say what you want, but this forum is dead without guys like CB and QD.

We would manage fine without them, it would just be somebody else posting the latest news and probably with less silliness.

[Sink41]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2556/3

I hope i got the right article, this talks about the last gen ati structure (HD4XXX) but HD5XXX is very similar.

[Shervin]

Well, I was drunk when I did this
But meant indeed considering the transistorcounts (and thus diesize)

You tell me that you get drunk alone playing wow and post topics about video cards on FM?
Dude come on... That is just depressing... First of all getting drunk alone is really depressing and doing those activities just make it worse.