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    Linux vs. Windows scores

    I don't have any of the "Popular CPUs" or Windows so, I was wondering if anyone had run this benchmark on both Linux and Windows and how things like Firefox and Opera compare between the two operating systems. With a T9300/nVidia 8400M GS/Firefox 3.5, I'm able to average numbers on par with the Windows machines (2200+) but, that's with some tweaking (ok, I admit, an insane amount of tweaking) so, I'm wondering what the "out of the box" comparison is like.

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    Actually, Firefox on Linux SUCKS.

    First of all (It comes with every distributions, but it's a problem when you want to update), FF is only packaged is this crappy Tarball (tar.gz) format. Not an auto-package (like Nvidia's drivers) not a deb (like Flash) or a RMP (Like Java), a stupid tarball, which only contain a folder which you have to figure out how to install it yourself, since there's no instructions for this!

    Now, since there's only one package for every distribution in the world (And there's a lot of them!), The Fox is compiled of a generic way, without doing anything to get a better speed following the Kernel updates that will figure on your distro.

    Actually, Fifefox run faster on wine than the Linux native package, or even the package that comes with your distrribution!

    So...
    I guess you already know who will be the winner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty800 View Post
    Actually, Firefox on Linux SUCKS.

    First of all (It comes with every distributions, but it's a problem when you want to update), FF is only packaged is this crappy Tarball (tar.gz) format. Not an auto-package (like Nvidia's drivers) not a deb (like Flash) or a RMP (Like Java), a stupid tarball, which only contain a folder which you have to figure out how to install it yourself, since there's no instructions for this!
    That's the only sane way to distribute disto-neutral binary packages on Linux. Linux isn't Windows and so you should rely on your distro (or at least pre-built packages) to get updates for Firefox if you want to maintain a stable system. It's interesting that you mention nvidia and flash though, as those are two of the most notoriously difficult and error-prone things to install on linux. By contrast, if you choose to install a downloaded .tar.gz version of Firefox, the correct way to install/run it is:

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    tar xvf firefox*.tar.gz
    cd firefox*
    ./firefox
    You can do that without damaging the integrity of your Linux install.

    Now, since there's only one package for every distribution in the world (And there's a lot of them!), The Fox is compiled of a generic way, without doing anything to get a better speed following the Kernel updates that will figure on your distro.
    All distributions compile their own version of Firefox from source and linked against the distributions specific shared libraries. They may compile it with the default generic optimizations but, the very nature of distributions makes that a necessity. Also, kernel updates have little or no bearing on browser performance. The kernel settings that may play a role in browser benchmarks (i.e. Chip specific optimization, preemption level, timer Hz, default CPU frequency governor, etc) don't change on kernel updates within a given distro release.

    Actually, Fifefox run faster on wine than the Linux native package, or even the package that comes with your distrribution!

    So...
    I guess you already know who will be the winner?
    No, I don't. That's specifically why I'm asking. I'm looking for an "out of the box" comparison where the only variable is the operating system because I have no way to get those numbers myself. All that you have provided is conjecture, hearsay and a fundamental lack of understand of how Linux works.

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    All distributions compile their own version of Firefox from source and linked against the distributions specific shared libraries. They may compile it with the default generic optimizations but, the very nature of distributions makes that a necessity. Also, kernel updates have little or no bearing on browser performance. The kernel settings that may play a role in browser benchmarks (i.e. Chip specific optimization, preemption level, timer Hz, default CPU frequency governor, etc) don't change on kernel updates within a given distro release.
    Sorry about that, I messed up on this part.
    When I said Kernel optimisation, I meant Profile-Guided Optimisation[oops] (Witch is a completely different thing, I admit).

    Still, that makes the Benchmark unfair, since the windows build comes with PGO, while the Linux build comes without it!

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    Re: Linux vs. Windows scores

    Got the latest Chrome 4 dev running fine on my 2Ghz C2D Ubuntu 9.10 (Beta) x64 laptop :-

    http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2141/screenshot1hv.png

    Not even that buggy really, apart from the lack of being able to print etc. Kicks the absolute crap out of Firefox on Linux, and it even runs faster than Chrome on Win7 x64 on the same machine.

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    Re: Linux vs. Windows scores

    Quote Originally Posted by powerarmour View Post
    Got the latest Chrome 4 dev running fine on my 2Ghz C2D Ubuntu 9.10 (Beta) x64 laptop :-

    http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2141/screenshot1hv.png

    Not even that buggy really, apart from the lack of being able to print etc. Kicks the absolute crap out of Firefox on Linux, and it even runs faster than Chrome on Win7 x64 on the same machine.
    Got a link to a guide for installing Chrome on Linux?

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